Monday, March 08, 2010

The problem of inviting immigrants when you don't know who you are...

BBC News - Hardtalk - Bishop Nazir-Ali: 'Multiculturalism was a mistake'. A friend sends us this link to a video clip of Bishop Nazir-Ali. Short and sweet. However, while appearing to talk tough on "Hardtalk" his may be a charitable interpretation of the mistake of British multiculturalism now that we know it has been a conscious policy of the Labour party to destroy traditional British culture, the culture that is alleged by Labour to be the evil basis of the "right's" electoral support.

3 comments:

Dag said...

I'll admit here that I am not deeply impressed by the EDL. There is hope that this group will evolve into something significant, or that from this movement something significant will arise, but as is, the English Defence League isn't doing it for me at this time.

What about the Conservatives? We can see something in this:

A. Millar, "Elections, Islamist Infiltration, and the Politicians’ Blind Eye," Brussels Journal. 8 March 2010

David Cameron has made it clear that the Conservative party, of which he is the head, has changed. Win or lose the upcoming election, there is no going back. The Tory “dinosaurs” are out. The party is now “progressive,” “bold” and “radical” – a party of “ideas.”

Yet, its ideas were mostly thought up by Tony Blair’s New Labour party. Issues of importance are off the table:

- In his Spring conference speech on Feb. 28, Cameron failed to mention uncontrolled immigration even though the island nation (smaller then the state of Oregon) is on track to hit 70 million by 2030.

- There was no mention of the damage done to society by political correctness.

- No mention of the European Union, which makes 75-80 percent of laws enacted in Britain.

- And the “bold” and “radical” Cameron did not address the issue of political Islam in Britain – an issue that is hardly out of the news these days....

-30-

Twice now in my life I've seen armies go down to defeat because they didn't have the will to win. Worse, the men involved didn't have the will to live. It's is a fundamental mass suicide.

I've seen any number of defeated nations, some who've lost wars centuries ago, and whose people just survive at a minimum, not great spirit moving them to do more. No will.

We can see it daily in people who just live and do little more than put in time till death mercifully takes them away. And there is the immediate defeat of sports, something we can all relate to, seeing at team just fold, even though it is possible to struggle, even if not to win the actual points.

I see victory and defeat much as a matter of leadership. Much of that is conveying morale. How does one tap into the depths of Will and give it to the masses to the point that the weak can excel and defeat the powerful? That happens just about as often as the victory of the powerful. It's attitude.

Without a real leadership the people are defeated. If not, then it's every man for himself.

truepeers said...

The thing about will, i think, is that it is not enough just to want it, or to believe in it directly, as if nothing else matters. One gets it via a love for something else. Leadership has to be able to point to that something among us, we few, we happy few, we band of brothers, and get people to believe in its goodness. Even suicide is just a pathetic way of saying well, given the other options, this is for the best... People can't but orient themselves towards some idea of the good, even if they're happy that it's the good of the devil.

But to have really strong faith takes more than abstract will - it takes a sense that one is fighting for something sacred. Cameron appalls me too. But I think he also appalls many in his party and many conservative voters. He can pronounce all he wants about the new Conservatives; but it might not be the truth as understood by those he would lead. But this is not to say the old fogeys are due for a comeback. It's to suggest that we may be witnessing a process of doubling down on the only ideology the present baby boomer generation knows and will cling to even at the moment it's just becoming evident a new world is emerging, a world that will slowly find its own new terms for belonging once all the many lies of the old are revealed by events. THe first leaders are the ones few see or remember. The famous leaders will come along when there is enough of a thread already established to show a lot of people we are on to something.

Dag said...

I think of Will in terms of sports, particularly in terms of mountain climbing, a deadly and terrifying sport that is not at all collective, like football, but is interdependent, one relying on ones mates for safety an life. The goal is set and little beyond that goal. There is the peak, and then there is the terrifying descent. For what? To conquer oneself.

That's a life-long pursuit, never accomplished in the climb to the top of just one mountain. Or any mountain at all. It is the determination to struggle and win and do so by ones own Will. No one can be climbed up a mountain. One must do so on ones own or it never happens at all. So it is with life. But I've seen weak men struggle and win with the help of stronger men encouraging and cajoling and threatening and loving the weak and making them climb to Heavenly heights, something neither would have bothered with without a goal. And too I've witnessed, in disgust, men who've thrown down their gear and their spirits and sit and pout like children. I've seen armies do the same, and they died passively, the spirit physically gone before they were killed in a state of collective apathy.

Man is a herd animal, and he becomes part of the herd, good or bad, by struggle. Man can become free and individuated by throwing in his lot with a strong group, rising with them through his own power by his own choice; or he can be a strong man thrown down by the collective despair of his chosen group, lying down and awaiting death because his group has given up on the field. Good men can and do just lie down and wait for death because the group has given up. Some men won't abandon the group even u to to death. It's not attractive. Its not loyalty. It's Human, a natural thing, and terrible to see. The collapse of the Human spirit can envelop a crowd or an army and take strong men to death without a whimper. Thus, one must rally those lost men, and if they can't be roused, one must flee to fight another day with a better lot. Terrible to see, but such is life.