Tuesday, July 31, 2007


Those who read my posts with far more attention than they deserve will see the obvious influence of Ingmar Bergman on the style and content therein. Bergman is dead at age 89.
Very much indirectly, of course, he changed the intellectual landscape for all of us, and we benefit or not mostly unaware. Such is art. Such is life.


Anonymous said...

Bergman did primal therapy and apparently made a film strongly infuenced by primal therapy. And Liv Ullman's autobiography of sorts, written while she was raising her kid with Bergman, was clearly influenced by primal therapy.

I've found that you scoff at such things as primal therapy. You told me once that physical exercise could erase the need for primal therapy. So I just thought I'd let you know that Bergman who you seem to admire did primal.

dag said...

If Bergman had gotten more exercise he would have lived a lot longer.

maccusgermanis said...

Gee Dag, you might not even brush your teeth like Bergman did. Anon's comments suggests a regressive hero worship. To say that one is influenced by Bergman is not to claim to be a cultist of Bergman.

dag said...

I love much of Bergman's work, and not all of it directly his: take for example the work of the Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky, work that would not have come about were it not for Bergman. It's been of sufficient interest to me that I can write that I know it in the round. To appreciate is also to know the flaws and to accept them as part of the work.

The allusion to teeth brushing that Maccusgemanis make is to Muslims who imitate Mohammed down to the details of how he brushed his teeth, how Mohammed cut his fingernails, in fact, how he conducted himself during "calls of nature." Putting too much faith in a fallible thing, idea of person, whichever the case is, leaves one open to inhumanity rather than the sought after perfection. Doing what another did, like Beckett wearing tiny shoes like Joyce, did not make Beckett the same writer Joyce was.The problem we face in the world with our Muslim cousins is that they don't have the sense Beckett did, they don't outgrow the hero-worship. Bergman was a very good artist, and those influenced by him are sometimes as good, but none of us would ever care to be Bergman, nor even, I daresay,like him.

That's a lesson our Muslim friends and neighbous haven't quite figured out as yet.

maccusgermanis said...

You have either extended me too much credit or missed my point. In other words, I'd not intended to suggest that the anon comment was left by a muslim but rather by one of our ill-educated countymen. -your countrymen or mine I wouldn't care to guess- That said, I agree with your statements and am glad to have elicited them.

I was more thinking along the lines of how everything is now understood by so many left dhimmi facsist soley in terms of personalities. Fantastic tales of conspiracy involving various leaders are preferred over any admission of fundamental differences in ideologies.