Thursday, January 22, 2009

Orwellian in Catalonia

We meet this evening at Vancouver's Public Library in the atrium from 7-9:00 p.m. to discuss current affairs and the nature of things. For those looking for a more popular gathering, ours would be one to avoid.

Maya Mahler, "Catalunya cancels Shoah memorial ceremony over Gaza op," Israel Jewish Scene. 22.01.09

BARCELONA – The Catalunya government has called off the ceremony marking the International Holocaust Remembrance Day, which was scheduled to take place on January 27, citing the Israeli offensive in Gaza as the reason.


Over 30,000 people marched in Catalunya's streets in support of Hamas, during the three-week campaign, burning Israeli flags and handing out flyers threatening local pro-Israel journalists.

The overwhelming public support for the Palestinians has prompted the government to cancel the Holocaust Remembrance Day service. This was to be the only public event marking the day, and was scheduled to take place in Barcelona's central piazza.


Feel free to join us for coffee and a few hours of talk. Outside of Blenz coffee bar in the atrium. Tonight and every Thursday night.


Witness said...

On the topic of Gaza, as predicted, other versions of what went on there are starting to trickle out.

Ynet news:
Gazan doctor says death toll inflated.
Physician at Gaza's Shifa Hospital tells Italian newspaper number of dead in Israeli offensive 'stands at no more than 500 or 600, most of them youths recruited to Hamas' ranks'.

More at,7340,L-3660423,00.html


Jerusalem Post:
"It is sufficient to visit several hospitals [in the Gaza Strip] to understand that the numbers don't add up," he wrote.

In the European hospital in Rafah, one of the facilities which would presumably be filled with wounded from the "war of the tunnels," many beds were empty, according to Cremonesi. A similar situation was noted in the Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, and in the privately-run Amal Hospital Cremonesi reported that only five out 150 beds were occupied.

More at:

I still work Thursday nights so wont make it out. But maybe one of these days I'll get the evening off. Till then... I will visit the blog.

Dag said...

It's always a pleasure to read your comments, Witness, and we all look forward to meeting you.

Islam delenda est said...


The relationship of male Muslims to the rest of humanity is one of predator to prey. There are the razzias (raping, pillaging raids) against harbis, the extortion of jizya from dhimmis, the treatment of their own women as property to be owned, the organised pedophilic and gang-rape attacks against European kuffar women and children, the encouragement of enslavement in the Koran, and the persistent criminality of all descriptions.

Islam has much in common with the Mafia. It's a predatory international criminal conspiracy, and once you're in, the only way you can leave is through death.

Islam is impervious to rational analysis because its motivation is sexual and material predation, rather than any search for theological or philosophical truth. You can no more reason with these Pedophilic Death-cultists than you can reason with the Mafia itself.

This is why the jails of the west are full of disproportionate numbers of Muslims, and why so many kuffar prisoners convert to a cult that provides them with a psychopath's charter. To the Muslim, murdering, raping and pillaging the kuffars isn't criminal, it is simply carrying out Allah's will.

Islam was founded by a predatory pedophile and caravan-robber, and his followers copy his example.

truepeers said...

The above rant, which comes to us from Scotland, is an example of something we see more and more of: people who are themselves getting lost in a world of hate in ways that can do little or nothing for our side in the present situation.

At a time when Muslims seem to be getting away with passing out genocidal pamphlets on the streets of the UK, calling for death to the Jews, because the police say they're just passing out quotes from the "holy" Koran, so we can't take this to be a literal death threat, it's easy enough to see why many people are losing it. When the police refuse to face down massed evil, things get out of hand.

But what does the above anonymous commenter achieve? Does he convert anyone to the fight for civilization by showing such hate? The fact is most people in the West today know Muslim males who are not predatory rapists. So obviously there is a lot more going on than the commenter cares to see or explain.

Islam is impervious to rational analysis because its motivation is sexual and material predation, rather than any search for theological or philosophical truth.

-actually, within the Muslim world there is some degree of order; many rightly see it as an improvement over the more purely tribal past; so, for starters, if you share a certain political-religious paradigm with Muslims clearly one is able to "reason" to some degree, however difference this mix of reason/irrationality is from ours. Second, there are Muslims in the West who demonstrate some degree of capability to talk with and work with us, sometimes a high degree. If we simply deny these basic realities instead of trying to explain in calm and fair tones what is going on and the real dangers out there, one only loses credibility with a doubting audience and helps the ignorant paint anyone who is critical of Islam with the brush of a hate monger.

Islam may be in good part focussed on war with the non-believer. Most readers of the Koran would see that. However, that cannot explain how Muslims today behave. Many Muslims don't want to interpret such Koranic passages as a call to literal war in the here and now, because that would be irrational, from many perspectives of their lives, and a hard way to live in any event. There is a larger human reality Muslims are part of that has to have some weight on how they deal with their Gnostic political religion. The many need not be the vision of the robots taking orders from the Gnostic commander's book that the Scottish puritan assumes they are.

There is a real problem in the West today because by many reports the majority of mosques are teaching radical and hateful political messages. In fighting this, we have to show that we are indeed a more reasonable people with ideas for organizing the world in ways that maximize human freedom. Yes, everyone is capable of some degree of reason and freedom, including Muslims, and everyone is capable of taking this a step farther than where they are now, which often isn't very far.

But in a climate where many people are caught up in the lies of a Western moral and cultural relativism, hateful rants like the above only encourage people to self-righteously pronounce a pox on all houses. The left-liberal ruling cult of anti-discrimination succeeds in insuring people will not learn the forms of discrimination they need to survive, thanks precisely to unbalanced Westerners like the above.

In other words, please post your anonymous rants on your own blog.